HugBunter gives Update on Dread and Opinion on AlphaBay
Published by Ethan on Sun, Feb 12, 2023 | Tagged AlphaBay, Dread | 80 Comments

After 12 days of absence from Reddit, HugBunter has returned to set things straight. The dread administrator has taken to Reddit to give updates on Dread, suffering it's longest downtime ever, and debunk FUD.

On February 11th the Dread Network Status page was updated:

Updates are sparse right now intentionally, due to further problems because I tried to rush things and over-simplify the theory behind intended re-writes, we've been left with some tough decisions which will make the relaunch potentially a lot less worthy of what I wanted to provide.
The DoS workaround concept is in final testing stages and being held back only due to limited contact with some market Admins, who we want to ensure are provided the accessibility for organic traffic to their service. I am currently migrating some minor new features/updates into the previous Dread codebase and we will relaunch in the best capacity possible at this time. I am avoiding Reddit right now due to the cess pit of complaints and FUD, which just provide further headaches for us all.
We're working hard and will restore balance for us all shortly.

Both HugBunter's and Paris's canaries have been updated.

Opinion on Alphabay's Situation

HugBunter has something to say about DeSnake's absence:

I've been saying DS (DeSnake) is either compromised or dead for over a month now, we'll see how it plays out.
He's been MIA for a very long period now, there is no way he'd allow the market to lockdown if he planned on being away for an extended period.
I do not believe for one second, with knowing how he operates, that he would simply let this slip his mind and will not trust any form of return from him.

Which begs the question: If AlphaBay returns, will it be allowed on Dread? I can't see HugBunter allowing a market he doesn't trust on his platform.

HugBunter's response to claims AlphaBay is exit scamming:

Unlikely because he'd be working to maximize profits. If it IS, then the only reason for doing it this way, would be to leave things open-ended as to his well-being and what really happened to the market. Preserving a legacy without anyone suspecting he made off with millions. I could totally see this as something he would want to do in such an instance, but I do not believe this to be the case. In the best way, I hope he died rather than being busted, because I'm sure he'd be put in a position where he wishes he was dead.
If they (Law enforcement) don't have access to his PGP key then we can assume they don't have access to the servers, unless the servers were identified beforehand also, still unlikely to gain access however.

The majority of people browsing this site voted AlphaBay will exit.

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f74b7707c1
Sun, Feb 12, 2023

HugBunter allowed an employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs to promote his market on Dread? Does he understand at least a little what the Ministry of Internal Affairs does? This is crazy and we continue to trust our destinies to such a cretin.

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HugBunter
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

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6e06a4bb4d
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

HugBunter always in the shady deals. So many exit scams allowed by this asshole. I'm sure that motherfucker is fat as hell.

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4431f6e3b9
Mon, Feb 20, 2023

Either you're trolling or extremely dumb. But MIA means Missing In Action. Not Ministry of Internal Afairs...

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0893f8a2fd
Thu, Feb 23, 2023

Why are you talking to yourself Hugbunter?

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n1ce1
Sun, Feb 12, 2023

thanks

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8e369de23b
Sun, Feb 12, 2023

Did you know when will the Alphabay get back on work

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035b2e0e3b
Sun, Feb 12, 2023

i hope Alphabay will not exit

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34a8148959
Sun, Feb 12, 2023

Stop hoping or coping, start using brains and don't go to compromised sites. Go to alternatives.

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6318e87724
Sun, Feb 12, 2023

based

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6d428f8df2
Sun, Feb 12, 2023

This dude is high is fuck but can still talk some real facts

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ace
Sun, Feb 12, 2023

What's the best alternative DNM right now, in your opinion?

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01689afa1d
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

nemesis market

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6ac0a6187d
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

Archetype and Kerberos are the two that have consistently worked for me for the past entire two weeks. Both have comfortable UI and ease of use.

Can't speak for others, all markets are merely markets, there is no such thing as "better" market, remember that anytime anywhere exit scams can happen. They have so many times. So just bear that in mind with ANY market regardless. Peace and good luck out there.

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JoeMamma
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

Nemesis sucks dong faggot. Stop shilling your piece of shit market.

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Gambetta
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

Bohemia

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02341559
Mon, Feb 20, 2023

Bohemia is by far the best ran, most vendors, tightest rules etc. 300+ purchases and not one time have I not received my pack. I use my private key, so accessing is no issue for me. It seems others struggle. But they do have a clearnet mirror provider. Good luck on whichever way you choose. I saw someone said Nemesis. I got fucked on the one thing I ordered. Never got it, seller could not provide tracking and they sided with seller. I assume they split my BTC. It also took 3+ months for the decision. After one day the seller claimed in the dispute he did not receive tracking. He was a dropshipper and never even had the stock. Total scam.

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1a1f5c4da3
Sun, Feb 12, 2023

Alphabay is kil

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fuckHugBunter
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

@HugBunter fucking incel just get the site working again

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ReplyingToARetard
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

Why because you're withdrawing? Go focus on life retard

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dc711df152
Mon, Feb 20, 2023

He doesn't work for you

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DreadAlphabayCompromised
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

@HugBunter , stop your bullshit bro , you disappeared for 2 months and asking why desnake disappeared ? ahahaha !!! you both compromised : Dread AND alphabay are traps . Markets to go now is Asap and nemesis .

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ReplyingToARetard
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

You're a retard

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king
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

he didn't disappear for 2 months, he kept us updated on reddit and dread

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88aba35ea9
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

He did disappear for month or two, very coincidentally when DeSnake stopped showing around too. His mods are also gone, thecypriot in particular it seems. Make your own conclusions folks, that's the best way around really.

It's also "coincidental" that Dread went on "permaDoS" around that time period, too.

A forum like Dread was indeed handy, though I'm not exactly sure about the level of transparency there. Literally Reddit style. How does that translate into good security against "government spies"? Or just assholes who want to ruin the markets?

But the best thing about it was, the size and ability to share any complaint (discreetly via PM) to a moderator of a specific DNM. It helped me get disputes solved faster. And probably also the fact that it is decentralized, ergo separate from the markets and thus if there are inside market problems, or the market is DEAD, then places like that are handy indeed. :)

I personally don't think about it too much, so many exit scams have happened in the past, I honestly don't give two shits. In case AB WAS an exit scam, luck was on my side this time. No loss in dolla.

And the market has already grown exponentially, AB had an insane amount of listings, fucking 5 digit numbers. I guess that's what happens when a DNM grows a little too fast, huh?

Don't put all your eggs into one basket, kidz.

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1f5083699d
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

dread disappeared, not hugbunter. he routinely made updates on r/dreadalert

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45456789
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

I’ve been saying HB and Dread have been compromised for over a year. Too much unaccounted for MIA time for my taste fam. Don’t let all this talk of recoding and shit take away from your common sense

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f74682ca3e
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

They sure are delivering... promises. Lol.

The one thing I dislike about DeSnake and Hugbunter (which they oddly have in common) is all the "politics" talk. Very corporate, fake feel to it. You can just feel it emanating from the screen.

As for AB, they did handle the code pretty well. It was a solid, well-running site for the most part, one or two instances of 2FA signature error (which presently wrecked the site apparently). But you never know... always take everything with a grain of salt here.

The AB "Harm Reduction" program didn't seem to make a single difference to me, as through the course of over a year I was unable to find a single vendor with a Harm Reduction review done on them. It's like the market is trying to seem more "consumer-friendly" but in actuality the products themselves aren't really getting better. From my recent experience, I'd say the contrary. AB was better in older years

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45456789
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

I’ve been saying HB and Dread have been compromised for over a year. Too much unaccounted for MIA time for my taste fam. Don’t let all this talk of recoding and shit take away from your common sense

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8254eb9dda
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

Here's the real scoop. If you keep decent opsec and encrypt everything you do on Dread (whenever it is online, lol) then you'll be fine.

But 99% of people don't do that on Dread, because it's not a market, and their guard is down.

Notice how HB and Paris get so goddamn defensive when replying to pretty reasonable questions, as well. We've had these two as our only "famous" DNM figures for a long while now, and that's suspicious as shit when you add all the unaccounted time and such.

And if nothing else, they've directly allowed or promulgated multiple exit scams in just the last year.

Just be wary - that's my entire point. But be especially wary of anyone encouraging you to trust them when they have a record that should logically lead to less trust. The Feds can also sign PGP messages every 14 days - seems like people forget that.

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23f142e938
Wed, Feb 15, 2023

^^^ finally someone who gets it

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hawk
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

why is nemesis market not listed on tor times markets?? wtf!@!!!

glad bug answered us finally, need dread in my life

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JoeMamma
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

Why do you keep shilling your gay market here faggot?

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BugHunter
Mon, Feb 20, 2023

Because Nemesis sucks. I ordered one pack from there and never received it. They sided with the seller, even though he stated he did not get tracking. Market is a complete joke. I use Bohemia. 300+ purchases and never one time have I not received what I ordered. Maybe issues with quantity or quality, but never a no show etc. Lots of options, vendors, worldwide...I have had great luck with it. May not be what suits everyone though. I'm mainly there for the flower.

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Putin sucks dong shlong
Fri, Feb 24, 2023

nemesis market is run by putin mafia.

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zeebrow
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

My mind is nothing

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hugbunterlying
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

I've been saying DS (DeSnake) is either compromised or dead for over a month now, we'll see how it plays out.

Wait when did he ever say this in the last month i have been glued to the dread canary and reddit and he never said anything like this

What the fuck is hugbunter talking about what happened to the imminent dread return. something is going on here.

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41f1397cc7
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

Take it easy boyz. No need to shit the pants. It's not the apocalypse, there are other markets to sink your hook into.

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522bc274f6
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

Or they just got fucking lazy, while the market has grown even further. The mod "team" is so tiny to begin with, it's ridiculous. They're raking in cash already. Ever thought about that?

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SHA256
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

DS will be back when he feels safe again.

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515a12c0aa
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

Bullshit

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aaaaaaaaaaa
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

is darknetlive run by incognito foshizzle?

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dc0e6b44dd
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

yes

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not desnake
Fri, Feb 17, 2023

what do you mean?

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hugbuntergay
Mon, Feb 13, 2023

fuck hugbunter

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d0fd92286d
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

none of these other markets work and if they do they have the shittiest of all vendors on there. Attention all vendors: please migrate to a new market so I don't have to buy shit product.

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8056fa6922
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

can someone send me a link of a functional market I can use today?

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brodybro69
Tue, Feb 14, 2023

my favorite is Ass Market

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186229a432
Wed, Feb 15, 2023

bohemia

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Mirrors
Mon, Feb 20, 2023

Bohemia.so/

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cabecadedick
Wed, Feb 15, 2023

i always love the retards in comment section

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maximize
Wed, Feb 15, 2023

Game recognizes game. I know what you mean.

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WhmJ555
Wed, Feb 15, 2023

except alphabay was working for quite a while, i2p my friends way more secure, also dread lasted about a week longer on i2p as well, i dont understand why it all had to come down but dont doubt HB, alphabay was doomed from the re-start. I mean letting almost anyone FE and only a vendor bond of 1 monero at one point that was $100, seems pretty obvious that something was going to explode eventually

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desnakeISDEAD
Thu, Feb 23, 2023

lol, you bitch are one of those tools who actually bought desnake's shtick about i2p being more secure.

Actually no it's not.

Desnake made it easier to use their i2p site by not requiring captchas. The neophytes seize on that to believe it's somehow more secure. lolololoz ... it gets a tiny fraction the traffic of tor so it hasn't come close to being battle tested at scale. There will be numerous vulnerabilities discovered about i2p as its load skyrockets. This is just an inevitable fact that will be true for any piece of software much less software designed with decentralized encrypted anonymity protecting intentions in mind. You should lay off the weed bra.

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207a7e9e5b
Thu, Feb 16, 2023

that's why their decentralized market plan is never started to get development, most likely its exit scam.

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Detective Sargent Cocknballs
Fri, Feb 17, 2023

ASAP maket is the most popular and best option imo atm

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ASAPgatekeepersSUCKDONG
Thu, Feb 23, 2023

too hard to access the main site. Wtf are they thinking?

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therealmegashard
Sat, Feb 18, 2023

Farrrrrkkkkk!!!!......GOT DREAD WITHDRAWAL REAL BAD !!

STARTED USING HEROIN TO COPE AND GAVE UP METH......THIS FAKKKED!

I WILL BE DYING OF AIDS BY THE TIME DREAD COMES BACK ONLINE

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BoobBeep765
Sat, Feb 18, 2023

hey there.. i have been a long time customer on arche and ab.. recently i have been looking to buy different stuff than narcotics like firearms (since i collect handguns but run out of options to buy more since my irl street vendor in czechia stopped doing it) does anyone known and reputable know a place and can pgp verify the message? thanks alot. Best would be if hugbunter or any market admin could recommend me such a place.. not really looking to lose my precious euros hehe

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breakbeat
Mon, Feb 20, 2023

fuck off with your gun buying, officer.

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dede
Sun, Feb 19, 2023

So, is AlphaBay actually owned by LE?

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f26bd1dcea
Mon, Feb 20, 2023

So many tough guys over the internet. People need to start getting shot in the face and left in the streets. Bringin back how it was done less than a century ago would do this world some good.

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mealteamsixlmao
Mon, Feb 20, 2023

So many tough guys over the internet, talking about shooting people in the streets. Hilarious

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everyoneLikesAgoodConspiracy
Mon, Feb 20, 2023

Fucking conspiracy fags on here

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Mughunter444
Wed, Feb 22, 2023

I am totally gay for hugbunter.

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9h08yh
Wed, Feb 22, 2023

who really cares, if you've used tor over vpn / i2p over vpn , no javascript / isolated browsers and PGP all PII comms it doesn't even matter if they are owned by LE. Also why would anyone leave large amounts of money in their marketplace wallet.. it takes about 10 mins to transfer some XMR in or out.

admins of dread and alpha is like some spy action thriller plot, asking to be found.

trust no market but use them, trust nobody, and learn your OPSEC , its simple

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urnotsmart
Thu, Feb 23, 2023

Vendors have this thing called an escrow balance thats why faggot.

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5im9l3
Thu, Feb 23, 2023

Glad I haven't lost any money in the past two years. I did this by easily not participating in compromised groups like dread, alphabay, etc.

It is very easy to pin point a compromised group.

If it seems like the same UI team was involved e.g. (kerberos, darktrain, etc) than it is obviously the same team.

Just don't even fuckwith it unless you want to end up like the legions still awaiting dread lol.

It is that simple.

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DeSnake
Thu, Feb 23, 2023

Exit Scammed..... bye :D

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ThePigFarmer
Sat, Feb 25, 2023

you do know the boys and me are gonna

find ya and

feed ya to tha pigs

quite literally

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whyHugBunterHate
Sat, Feb 25, 2023

why do people hate HugBunter? single gram evidence pointing to him being LE or GOVT anywhere?

assume the ctritics its GOVT bots to sow distrust. shadownet already confirmed real.

no one would be suprised if HugBunter is part of black ops fundrising for ebryones fav 3 letter agency. dont believe it tho. would be suprised ether.

no way he is GOVT or LE tho. aint sayan he is actually in a 3 letta. just aint suprised if dat da case.

if u aint a hellava bot pls explain dis 2 me.

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Alias
Sat, Feb 25, 2023

Only time will tell yes as mentioned there are and will be other markets. Kerberos seems the most stable with the best vendors. Good luck all!

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Alias
Sat, Feb 25, 2023

I also think that dread can not be good for some markets or vendors that do not agree with Dread policies or hearsay therefore could simply be other markets giving Dread trouble.. I would.

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fagbunter
Tue, Feb 28, 2023

hurry up faggot im getting really bored your devops skills are trash . You should neck yourself

Thanks

Sent from outlook

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9807c4f0a9
Wed, Mar 8, 2023

Angry bullshit comments like this one come from gov contractors paid to spread FUD and negativity

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ketocrisis
Thu, Mar 16, 2023

wickr:

ketocrisis

i am back

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